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diposting oleh Brandon Hayes di forum Jerman
here is a time magazine web article on the subj. on the documentary
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1940290,00.htm
lhere is an excrpt
"But Black on White is not being met with the same level of enthusiasm. Some feel the reason may be that racism remains a touchy subject in Germany. The country's black population, which numbers between 300,000 and half a million, is mainly made up of African immigrants and the descendants of children born to black American and French soldiers and German women at the end of World War II. And even though their numbers are rising and there has been talk lately about Germany becoming a multicultural society, many minorities say they still feel like outsiders because they do not look typically German. Yet most Germans don't think their country has a problem with racism, seeing it as an issue confined to the U.S.
"What strikes you first of all about the way Germany treats black people and racism is the avoidance of the subject," says Marina Jones, a doctoral fellow in the history of African Americans and Germans at the German Historical Institute in Washington. "As an Afro-German, you are often confronted with the situation that you look 'different' and people react differently, but then [people] also treat you with something like willful color blindness. You are often deemed a foreigner, so you are alien in your own country."
Black Germans say they've been speaking out about racism in their country for years, with little progress to show for it. In 2007, the black German actress and director Mo Asumang released a film called Roots Germania about her search for her family's descendants. And the latest album and book by the popular Hamburg rapper Samy Deluxe, That's Where I'm From, released earlier this year, deals extensively with his feelings about being black in Germany. Wallraff's film is seen as a dated contribution to what is already a lively discussion. Some consider it little more than a stunt — or a "carnival," as Sow put it. (See the 25 most important films on race.)
Wallraff rejects the criticism. He says a black person could not have made the same film because the transformation of his identity from a white German to a black German is an integral part of the story and resonates more powerfully with white audiences. "Germany is a developing country as far as racism is concerned," he says. "There is something close-minded and ill-at-ease about it. Germany is harboring more prejudices than it is ready to accept."
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- Racism in Germany
- Racism in Germany
- Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.
- Racism in Germany - how bad is it?
- Maybe they have a right...
- Sure you find ignorant people everywhere..Is that really an excuse though?
- ~
- Racism in Germany
- reply to michael
- reply to singh
- A diferent answer
- Re: Sara de España
- Based on my16 yrs, assesment of cultures and diversity living on this continent!@Mais Um
- Quienes son mas racistas
- Que los alemanes no son racistas???
- Unos son hipocritas y los otros expresivos .
- Morena
- Los raices del racismo todavía predominan mucho!
- Los Racistas son unos ignorantes
- Ray
- Que es un latino?
- hmmm
- Paloma y Lucy
- Rascism in Germany!!!!
- If you shocked about racism in Germany , then you'll love Ireland and England
- SOS from Germany !
- Racism
- Least racist country
- Racisim ist a norm!!!
- Hi
- Hi
- Hi
- hi
- General thoughts on this topic
- To Miguel
- Hola
- Comentario
- terrible
- Who cares?
- Hi
- Fail
- Hi
- At carsten
- lol
- Hausmeister
- Hi
- Alright
- Hmm
- ?
- at Charlie
- @wincy cheung
- BTW
- Racism
- I beg to differ.
- To most Germans
- Racism
- hello...
- Solution
- Genau!
- So
- Intigration on /Racism ? Which one is far better?Which one is working now.
- Hola
- this discussion is endless
- hi Alex
- endless and futile
- I second that...
- Reply to all...
- Reply to Bunye
- agreed
- another excuse
- Ha, etwa nicht???
- @TY @John Lovejoy
- Your comment to Y.T.
- True
- ...
- P.S
- ....
- To John
- good point.
- good reading - thank you
- not just in the East
- Thank you
- to T.Y.
- okay folks. here is another link!!
- visit Germany
- OK.
- no need to believe
- what do you recommend T.Y.
- more drama
- it's your choice
- thank you. lets keep talking.
- xenophobia
- Good points.
- jajaja
- classism
- jaja
- Thanks. Found another link.
- more examples
- thank ty
- good luck
- .....
- true
- ...
- ...
- Naija guy
- @Daniel Hollenbeck
- @Daniel Hollenbeck
- You missed my point.
- racism still there.
- Your point I did not miss is..........Berlin confrence Agender?1878
- " european National" yes full Time
- Mostly agree, but
- Bravo
- Naija
- ....
- ...
- Back to topic
- minoroties in politics
- ...
- Not just NPD
- ...
- another excuse
- Interracial couples
- racisim as part of the Germanic system
- My personal experiance
- Young Germans too
- Not that kind of scene
- Eye contact
- speaking of speaking up
- do not agree
- lol
- ...
- No surprise there
- Well, TY...wasn´t going to say that...
- not in the blood
- but is it really like that?
- Language
- Buenos días
- thanks
- more drama
- Appearance
- The goodones are in the minority!
- appreciate..
- false??
- mishandled
- appreciate
- lawd
- ...
- huh?
- of course
- Thank you for your insight
- Good discussion. video link. need reply
- Well...
- About time
- News flash? Not really
- so?
- So
- @TY and @Brandon Hayes Good Reference Info thanks again.
- Glad to help.
- My Profession
- thanks.
- A little perspective
- Women
- About the Spanish language in the USA...
- what? let's get real
- Dora the explorer
- it depends
- Freedom
- I have seen those cartoons
- Spanish
- experience matters
- Languages
- yes but...
- Experience
- don't know
- What is Multiculturalism.
- yes
- Agreed!
- I don't know
- They don't care
- Same thing
- what?
- I don't think it's the same
- ...
- Genau
- frustrating
- OMG
- Did you read
- that's sad
- basques?
- exactly
- of course!
- slightly off topic, but
- USA
- Yes, my kids used to watch Dora, too...
- speaking of languages
- not sure..
- MMMM
- Bla, bla, bla
- Germany is quite racist
- Keep your head down and mouth shut!....
- Hi Anthony
- German interior minister reopens bitter row over Muslim integration
- muslims
- Hola Crissy
- Que mal
- Eso no hay que dudarlo
- again?
- foreign workers from other cultures
- Integration
- lol
- See!
- they need foreign skilled workers badly...
- Of course
- herz4
- Already happening
- paradox...?
- Vicious cycle
- De acuerdo contigo
- WOW!
- Read carefully
- Germans are not friendly
- Hey
- agreed
- .....
- Being Caucasian
- maybe
- I guess...
- ...
- oh but come on!
- Italy
- I know
- Different skin, different experience
- maybe but...
- go see for yourself
- yeah
- being welcome
- yeah
- no paradise but
- true
- true enough
- me too
- @ YT
- transportation
- .....
- ...
- .....
- incapability
- that's right
- VIVA LA REVOLUCION!
- don't be so pessimistic
- ....
- .......
- revolution
- ....
- underestimate
- .....
- ....
- to the Germans in the forum!!
- ...
- I'm usually negative but....
- Europe
- .....
- ?
- same in Germany
- what is that?
- A resonse to your comment on Hitler
- ..
- ok I have to ask
- ...
- oh
- holocaust
- .....
- Conspiracy theorist
- .....
- oh
- agreed
- .....
- Cities
- Pool
- .....
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- .....
- c'mon
- ....
- ......
- true
- ....
- Nicolas K.
- true
- yes
- history
- Racism in Germany
- Just at the highest Echolon of Racism!!!!
- Afro german
- So you actually READ that, yeah?
- ....
- sad but true
- Facts
- Agreed
- ...
- .......
- German are more racist! No way around it
- yeah right
- us?
- Needed proof!!!
- Claudio and Patrick
- ....
- ....
- well
- .....
- The whole Germans need to be reducated in the real world affairs
- @ John Lovejoy
- ......
- in my opinion
- real American
- well said
- Oh Ja Genau
- Dortmund is only a part from Germany
- true
- I feel the same in North Germany
- Racism
- Racism
- I agree
- Funny
- Fast change
- Europe
- About racism
- ....
- well
- ....
- Canada eh!!!
- .....
- Multicultural experiment
- a note
- O Canada
- Agreed
- its everywhere
- Thanks for being honest
- It's nice
- Bravo
- May be the "Oslo Incident could be avoided"
- The european union was born out of the idealogy for trade purposes!
- agreed
- huh?
- never heard
- not accurate I think
- Culture and Racism
- or never realized
- I agree on some things
- our problem
- Comedians and racist jokes
- Why?
- Canada
- Comedian...
- because
- Canadian Immigration Preferences
- Immigration policy
- wow
- They should
- I tell you why
- Successful Canada
- Same tactic
- of course
- wow, I had no idea
- Again denial
- But now you know
- well...
- Racism in germany
- Germans are still the racists,which started both of the world wars
- 2nd comment
- Oh hell no
- Turks
- .
- Racism?
- ??
- Racism in Chemnitz, Germany
- AW
- Again and again denial
- well said
- What Facts Again!!!!!
- What facts Again!!!!
- What Facts Again!!!!!
- ...
- Bild
- oh yeah
- Fact
- Typing errors!!
- Errors! Reply @ Oliver
- double-double or rubble rubble
- Mistaken Identity I think.
- Errors!
- Yep
- Date!
- Some videos about immigrants in Canada
- Agree to disagree
- Canada, the land of the evil
- Same thing
- same old story
- who leaves the Germans alone
- what troubles me most is people like you exist in Germany
- what you said could be true in the past!
- racism is here and there and everywhere
- racism in england! Anybody found in such act faces prosecution.May be minors, 6-9years old cautioned.
- Ich bin Ausländer (leider zum Glück)
- I share with you my experience
- I wish you the best while your living there.
- danke
- I am quite aware of such in Germany
- more to add
- Theirs no actual slum the Uk as your thinking.
- Lies is every where in germany.
- Lies are every where , take your time you will discover it in them
- Yes and No
- German government
- and our people
- Racism
- Take it to Canada forum
- HI
- Its you who started comparison
- Racism
- Wow
- not wow but too much awww is not good
- Germany is setting Example for Canada to train Immigrants
- Racism, a never-ending hot topic.
- You nailed it!
- Germans are not open minded
- And the question is: WHAT COUNTRY is friendly with minorities and immigrants?
- Racism not only happen in Germany but even to
- Blizzy Everhard
- Racism!
- Racism and germany, i'm sick and tired to here about it. Germany moved on and so should everybody else!!!
- I agree
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- --
- Wow
- @Ingrid Meyer
- @Ingrid Meyer
- @ingrid Meyer
- --
- Racism in Germany
- German are open minded
- CITY RESIDENCE
- Re: CITY RESIDENCE
- Mhhhh
- cada cabeza es un mundo
- Clarifications from Germans
- @Anne Sredzki
- who leaves the Germans alone
- Why germans Can seem "racist"
- Curious!
- It's everywhere
- Racism in Germany is BAD - but there is a lot of hypocrisy!
- Germans are extremely conformist
- Subtle racism
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- Interesting...
- @Morgan Dalton
- a newbie's experiences
- How bad!?
- Reply to - Ulises Kahlo - How bad!?
- Positive Discrimination
- Claudio C
- Okay...
- Racism in continental Europe vs. UK / USA
- @Jet Setter what?
- Uk and USA
- @Sumon Swagger
- @Ron Saxena
- @Sumon Swagger
- @Ron Saxena
- Sumon Swagger
- Just a few thoughts
- Racism in Germany
- @G.M
- @G.M
- @G.M
- @G.M
- @G.M
- @g.M
- GM
- Germany is one of the friendliest countries that I have visited
- @Ron Saxena
- Photo in CV
- @Vladimir
- @Jack H
- Hi
- @Vladimir Tatransky
- @Ron Saxena
- @G. M.
- @G.M
- @oliver
- @Ron
- Vladimir
- Vladimir
- Oliver
- ...
- Racism in Germany
- ..
- --
- racism?
- @Ron
- Oliver H
- Oliver H.
- Oliver H.
- G.M
- racism
- mmmmm
- Experiences are by definition non sharable and racism is a manipulation
- Usual German reaction
- Born and bred in Germany, almost...
- Colonies
- Surprising?
- @ Astrid / Frank
- Germany not Racist!
- " Germany not Racist!"- Sarcasm alert
- Frank: Der Hyprocrite
- @ Astrid / Frank
- Frank: Der Hyprocrite
- Comments deleted
- Agree with Rox - why did you delete your post
- @nkbrd
- @nkbrd Jdk
- ..
- Racism
- Racism Today Essay
- Racism